Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by RAIDERRED » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:26 pm

Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott 59 minutes ago
Anyone else have concerns with Bosa's productivity against RT's as opposed to him lining up vs. Conklin, Spriggs and Stanley.
Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott 1 hour ago
Pondering Joey Bosa: Versus Michigan State: 65 total snaps (4 offsides, 3 on Bosa), 64 lined up on right side and 1 vs. Jack Conklin. (1/4)
Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott 1 hour ago
More Joey Bosa: Versus Indiana: 90 total snaps, 78 lined up on right side and 12 on left side, most vs. Jason Spriggs. Bosa won 1. (2/4)
Scott Bischoff ‏@Bischoff_Scott 1 hour ago
More Bosa: Versus Notre Dame: 12 total snaps (ejection), 11 lined up on right side, 1 on left side over OG, none vs. Ronnie Stanley. (3/4)
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by 34yearsnow » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:54 pm

Off the field, teams are concerned about Bosa using hard drugs. He was suspended for the 2015 season opener against Virginia Tech because he refused to take a drug test. Teams believe that was because Bosa new he would fail the test. He admitted to liking to go to raves, but told teams that was because he liked the "music." Bosa also was a roommate of Ezekiel Elliott before moving out because Elliott's partying was too much for Bosa, or so Bosa stated in his combine interviews.
Sorry...but both this guy and Nkemdiche should take hits for throwing teammates under the bus.

Oh...and in case you missed it....Bosa was suspended...not ZEKE.....he played.
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by 34yearsnow » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:56 pm

Bosa's explosion numbers were a little below average: He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.86 seconds, had a vertical jump of 33 inches, and had a 10-foot broad jump. Edge rushers with those types of explosion numbers certainly have been successful before, but none have ever been drafted in the top five.
The slowest edge rusher drafted in the top five since 1998 was Chris Long, who ran a 4.75 40-yard dash, which is 0.1 seconds faster than Bosa's. Additionally, Bosa's passes defensed rate is firmly average for a drafted edge rusher; he is a far cry from players such as Julius Peppers or Ziggy Ansah, who were as good at knocking down passes as they were knocking down quarterbacks.
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by 34yearsnow » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:29 pm

The questions with Bosa are going to be whether he is good or great at rushing off the edge. There are many great college rushers who stall out at 6 or 7 sacks at the next level and those guys are useful, but you would never want to spend a pick at the top of the 1st round on them. He does get locked up on some blocks at times that take him out of the play, but I would not call this abnormal.

He also converts well from power to speed on his moves, but sometimes that comes close to causing balance issues. He does stumble out of a few moves that might otherwise be sacks. He flirts with targeting or unnecessary roughness penalties, which some might see as a negative but others might not mind at all (mean streak). He also has a chance to be a guy who routinely gets offside penalties trying to jump the snap. And, it should be mentioned, he missed the season opener for a suspension by his program.
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by 34yearsnow » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:48 pm

Exceptional hand-to-hand combat skills for a college player.......Very slippery as a pass rusher, in large part because of his ability to keep OT's off of his pads........Instinctive........Throws a wide array of pass-rush moves at his opponent (rip, club, swim, spin, outside-in, inside-out, etc) and keeps them guessing for four quarters...... Usually does a great job of rushing "half-a-man.......Uses long arms to engage/control the offensive tackle.......Highly effective setting the edge......He has quick hands and knows how to use blockers' leverage against them....... Disengages quickly and pursues..... Very good range versus the run for his position........The only time he gets in trouble is when he gets too high or occasionally gets caught taking the bait on misdirection......Has experience playing 4-3 DE on both sides......Should be an effective inside rusher on obvious pass downs....... Has flashed the ability to hold up in underneath coverage when he has zone dropped.......Shows good eyes to read the quarterback but has tightness and lacks the speed to be used in coverage with any regularity.
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by 34yearsnow » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:49 pm

Bosa plans to follow in the footsteps of his father and uncle as NFL first-round picks; John Bosa was picked 16th overall by Miami in 1987 coming out of Boston College, while Eric Kumerow was picked in the same spot, again by the Dolphins, the following year. Joey Bosa's own potential as an elite prospect has been clear since arriving in Columbus, as he made his way into the starting lineup 10 times as a true freshman (13.5 tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks) to earn honorable mention All-Big Ten honors.

As a sophomore, he captured unanimous All-American honors, the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year award (led the conference with 21 tackles for loss, 13.5 sacks) and was named a finalist for three national awards as the nation’s top defender: the Lombardi Award, Outland Trophy, and Ted Hendricks Award.

His junior year got off to a slow start, however, as he was suspended for the opener for violating team rules. Statistically, his 2015 season was not as impressive as the year before (16 tackles for loss, five sacks) but Big Ten coaches still named him the conference’s Defensive Lineman of the Year because of his rare combination of strength against the run and consistent presence in the backfield.
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by RAIDERRED » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:11 pm

Scouts brood over a heavy first step but brag on his waist-up technique, especially a punch-and-pull move that keeps tackles guessing, but only when he's also engaged from the neck up. In college he would lazily lean on the simplest of football physics: I'm bigger and stronger, so I'm just gonna push you down now. That won't work on Sundays.

"His motor never stops, and that's good," says ESPN analyst Kevin Weidl. "But you can't go animal-style all the time, leaning in and forcing it in there on every play. That leads to mistakes and getting knocked onto your butt when they wash down on you on blocks."
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by 34yearsnow » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:36 pm

Not a quick-twitch rusher or elite explosion athlete
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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by tom » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:39 am

No news here, really, but I think it's funny that Bosa is still not signed by the Chargers, and he's not in training camp. I'm glad we passed on this clown. But if he somehow records 10 sacks this year, I'll come back and eat those words.

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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by MattN » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:31 am

tom wrote:No news here, really, but I think it's funny that Bosa is still not signed by the Chargers, and he's not in training camp. I'm glad we passed on this clown. But if he somehow records 10 sacks this year, I'll come back and eat those words.
Now, I want to get 10 sacks....

there would need to be video..

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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by MattN » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:18 am

Joey Bosa currently has 5.5 sacks.

COME ON JOEY GET 4.5 MORE!!!

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Re: Joey Bosa, DE Ohio St.

Post by tom » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:27 am

Looks like I may be eating my words......... :crycry:

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