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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

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CollegeFootball 24/7 ‏@NFL_CFB 29 minutes ago
.@WillieMcGinest: USC LB Su'a Cravens "wants everybody to know he can still play that T.J. Ward, Kam Chancellor safety position" #NFLCombine
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

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Brett Kollmann ‏@BrettKollmann 44 minutes ago
Ragland was very stiff in that shuffle drill. You see the same stiffness on tape every single week.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

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Top DB performers in bench press at #NFLCombine:

GOLD: Miles Killebrew, 22
SILVER: Sean Davis, 21
BRONZE: 6 players tied, 19
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Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler 44 minutes ago
#FloridaState Jalen Ramsey will do every drill Monday at the #NFLCombine. Said he doesn't have a preference for CB or FS, will play either.
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Josh Norris ‏@JoshNorris 56 minutes ago
Alex McCallister's 4 second 20 yard SS is the best time (at least) since 2006 for a DL.

Would be tied for 4th best among LBs in same span.
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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 14 minutes ago
Heard an interesting comparison for #tOSU's Joey Bosa after today's workouts: Jared Allen. If he had that kind of career, he'll be OK.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

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Brandon Thorn ‏@VeteranScout 12 seconds ago
Oklahoma CB Zack Sanchez putting up 19 reps of 225 at 185 lbs. is pretty impressive.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

Post by 34yearsnow » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:59 pm

For a point of comparison, here are some times of other recent defensive line prospects.
Jadeveon Clowney: 4.53
Barkevious Mingo: 4.58
Margus Hunt: 4.60
Aaron Donald: 4.68
Whitney Mercilus: 4.68
Quinton Coples: 4.78
Fletcher Cox: 4.79
Dontari Poe: 4.87
Leonard Williams: 4.97
Arik Armstead: 5.10
Danny Shelton: 5.64

The average 40 time for defensive ends in 2013 was 4.77 seconds.

Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa had a disappointing time in 40-yard dash of 4.86 seconds. Many thought that Bosa (6-5, 269) would be in the 4.7s. In the field drills, he was a little stiff in some of the defensive line drills, and he rounded off one bag drill that caused him to lose his feet. On the positive side, Bosa was solid in the linebacker drills with dropping into coverage. That showed 3-4 teams that Bosa does have the flexibility to play their scheme. It was good, but not great, performance in Indianapolis. Overall, the combine shouldn't change Bosa's status as a mid-top-10 pick.

In the early group, the most impressive defender in the field drills was UCLA defensive tackle Kenny Clark. In the 40-yard dash, he had an official time of 5.06 seconds. That was a good time for the 6-foot-2, 314-pounder, but he was superb in the drills. Clark stayed low and was very fluid, quick and balanced. He had great body control with flexibility to flatten around the pads. With the pads, Clark weaved through them well and also flashed heavy hands with some shock to the pads. Clark showed excellent athleticism at the combine, and this performance could really help his bid to be a Thursday night pick.

The combine can be the opportunity for some mid- and late-round players to command teams to take notice and give them more consideration if they have great workouts. The player who most took advantage of that chance was Oklahoma defensive end Charles Tapper. The 6-foot-2, 271-pounder had a shocking 40-time of 4.59 seconds, officially. That is a tremendous time for a circa 270-pound defensive lineman. Tapper followed it up by performing well in the field drills. The combine could send a real jolt into his draft stock.

Clemson defensive end Shaq Lawson had a nice workout on Sunday. He had one of the faster 40 times at 4.70 seconds. That was faster than expected for the 6-foot-2, 269-pounder. Lawson also was fluid and moved well in space during the field work. He was smooth with nice body control when dropping into coverage. That was very good for Lawson's draft stock as it illustrates that he isn't limited to just a 4-3 defense and could be a 3-4 outside linebacker. Given his size, a 3-4 might be Lawson's best fit. Lawson's combine should help to open him up to more possibilities, and that could lead to him moving up draft boards.

Oklahoma State defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah had two excellent seasons of sack production, but because of inconsistency, he has been viewed by teams as more of a mid- to late first-rounder. Ogbah made a statement at the combine though with a dynamic 40 time of 4.63 seconds. The 6-foot-4, 273-pounder also had the fastest 10-yard split of any of the defensive linemen at 1.59 seconds. Ogbah's explosion could be seen in good vertical and broad jumps as well. In the field drills, Ogbah moved well and showed that he is nimble despite being over 270 pounds. He gave teams looking for a pass-rusher in the middle of the first round something to think about.

Oregon defensive end DeForest Buckner (6-7, 291) didn't blow away the 40-yard dash, but at his size, the time of 5.05 seconds was solid. In the field drills, Buckner showed quick feet and strength with the pads, but he is a little stiff because he is so tall. Playing too high is something that Buckner has to be cognizant of. When he plays low, he is extremely hard to block. Sources say that Buckner is very good off the field, so his interviews should have gone well. The combine should do nothing but confirm Buckner as a high first-rounder.

For Louisville defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins, it was mission accomplished at the combine. Rankins (6-1, 299) had an official 40 time of 5.03 seconds with a 34.5-inch vertical and 9-foot-10 broad jump. Those are good numbers for an interior defensive lineman who weighs around 300 pounds. In the field drills, Rankins performed well also. At the Combine, Rankins confirmed his potential to be a top-25 pick in the 2016 NFL Draft.

Sources at the Senior Bowl said Eastern Kentucky edge rusher Noah Spence did not interview well with teams while impressing on the field. The poor interviews continued at the combine, and he added an underwhelming field workout. Spence had a disappointing 40 time of 4.80 seconds, which was much slower than expected. He did better in the jumps and the field drills, but didn't do enough at the combine to help rehabiltate the character concerns that are abundant around him.

Ole Miss defensive lineman Robert Nkemdiche was expected to star at the combine because the 6-foot-3, 294-pounder has rare athleticism and speed for a big defensive lineman. Nkemdiche had a good 40-yard dash at 4.87 seconds, and in the field drills, he moved pretty well. While Nkemdiche didn't completely perform up to his skill set, he had a solid performance on the field. More important than the field drills was interviewing well with teams as they have a lot of off-the-field concerns with Nkemdiche.

Florida defensive lineman Jonathan Bullard is a tweener, but he is a special athlete. That was on display at the combine with a 4.93-second time in the 40-yard dash. Bullard (6-3, 285) was quick and athletic in the field drills as well. With an excellent season of senior-year tape, some are projecting Bullard to go late in the first-round consideration.

Another defender who looked really good in the bag drills was Notre Dame defensive tackle Sheldon Day. He moved really well between the bags and showed quick feet with explosion. Day (6-0, 293) has natural pad level with serious quickness at the point of attack. If Day were a little bigger, he would be a first-round pick. This combine could cause teams picking late in Round 1 to give Day more consideration.

Maryland edge rusher Yannick Ngakoue hasn't gotten a lot of attention, but WalterFootball.com knows teams that really like him. His 40-yard dash was a good time of 4.75 seconds. Where Ngakoue really impressed was in the linebacker drills dropping into coverage. He was maybe the best of all of the prospects. Ngakoue was extremely fluid and natural in space. He dropped his hips well and was very quick in his back pedal to eat up yards. Ngakoue won't get a lot of headlines, but 3-4 teams love how he fits on the edge, and he gave them more proof at the combine.

WalterFootball.com knows a few teams that are considering Florida linebacker Alex McCalister (6-6, 239) and Virginia Tech linebacker Dadi Nicolas as mid-round picks to be situational pass-rushers. Both players had good workouts where they showed speed and athleticism. McCalister and Nicolas are sleeper prospects who could be good value picks.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

Post by 34yearsnow » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:48 pm

For a point of comparison, here are some times of other recent defensive line prospects.
Mychal Kendricks: 4.46
Bruce Irvin: 4.50
Vic Beasley: 4.53
Luke Kuechly: 4.58
Dante Fowler: 4.60
Randy Gregory: 4.64
Jaime Collins: 4.64
Khalil Mack: 4.65
Anthony Barr: 4.66
Alec Ogletree: 4.70
Denzel Perryman: 4.78
Manti Te'o: 4.82

The star of the linebackers at the combine on Sunday was Ohio State outside linebacker Darron Lee. A day earlier, we predicted that Lee would light up the combine, and that is what he did as he raced an official time of 4.47 seconds. His 10-yard split of 1.55 seconds was tremendous. In the field drills, Lee was strong as well. He was very quick at shuffling his feet and quick at moving laterally. He dropped well in coverage and clearly is an explosive athlete. This combine performance should help Lee to be a late first-round pick.

Another linebacker who had a great day to help confirm his first-round grade was Georgia's Leonard Floyd. The 6-foot-6, 244-pounder had an official 40 time of 4.60 seconds. Floyd had a muscle pull prevent him from running a second attempt, but showing up to the combine at a heavier weight and still running well should help his draft stock.

Alabama linebacker Reggie Ragland has dropped 12 pounds since the Senior Bowl and helped him in the 40-yard dash as he produced a 4.72-second time. Teams weren't expecting Ragland to run fast, and while that time isn't great, it isn't bad either. Ragland has more movement skills than one would think. Unfortunately, Ragland's stock is up from the combine for a sad reason: the knee injury to Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith. With Smith not being viewed as a first-rounder due to the extent of his injury, Ragland could go higher as a result.

LSU linebacker Deion Jones is an undersized linebacker at 6-foot-1, 222 pounds. For the Tigers, he was a fast sideline-to-sideline tackler who was very good pursuit. Jones had a good 40 time of 4.59 seconds with one of the faster 10-yard splits at 1.60 seconds. The field drills were well-suited for the athletic Jones to shine. He was excellent, moving through the bags and covering space with his burst. Jones has some big fans in the media. Teams see him as limited to being a sub-package linebacker, but teams play the nickel more than any other personnel package, so Jones should find plenty of franchises that give him consideration on the second day of the 2016 NFL Draft.

Arizona linebacker Scooby Wright missed the majority of the 2015 season with a multitude of injuries. Thus, his medical evaluation was important. Teams weren't expecting him to work out well at the combine. Wright is more of a pure football player who lives off of instincts and play-making ability. Their expectation was proven correct as Wright had a poor 40 time of 4.90 seconds. He looked better in the field drills, but his time could cause teams to push him lower.

USC linebacker Su'a Cravens didn't run the 40-yard dash, but he did do the field drills. Cravens (6-1, 226) was a natural. He is very comfortable at dropping into coverage and has good body control to move laterally. With his time at safety and linebacker, Cravens is a fluid athlete who can cover a lot of ground around the field. Even though he didn't have a 40 time, Cravens definitely helped his draft stock at the combine. Sources from multiple teams said that Cravens interviewed really well with them. He is on the bubble between Days 1 and 2, but with his tape and character, he should have solidified a spot among the top-63 picks.

Missouri linebacker Kentrell Brothers was a tackling machine last year leading the country in stops. He is a tough, instinctive, run-stuffing linebacker but his game didn't translate to the Combine. Brothers (6-0,245) had a very poor 40-time of 4.89 seconds. With that kind of speed, he could be limited to being only a run down defender. It will be important for him to run faster at his pro day and show skills dropping into coverage. The Combine could be a real weight on his draft stock.

Oklahoma linebacker Eric Striker did pretty well in the field drills for a player who is at his best when he is rushing off the edge. However, Striker (5-11, 227) has the body of a safety and he ran a slow 40 time for that body type. His time was 4.80 seconds. Striker looks like a third-day pick who will only be a situational pass-rusher, but he could provide a nice impact in that role as he is very good at hunting the quarterback.

A linebacker who opened some eyes with a better-than-expected performance was Vanderbilt's Stephen Weatherly. The 6-foot-4, 261-pounder had an impressive 40 time of 4.61 seconds with a strong 10-yard split of 1.59 seconds. Weatherly has nice length and showed well in the field drills. He could be a sleeper pick who ends up being a nice developmental project in the NFL.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

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Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB 2 hours ago
#OhioState's Darron Lee's official 40 time: 4.43. Fastest by a LB at the Combine since 2007 when New Mexico's Quincy Black ran 4.42.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

Post by 34yearsnow » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:27 pm

For a point of comparison, here are some totals of other recent defensive back prospects. Players with longer arms are at a disadvantage.
Brock Vereen: 25 reps
Justin Gilbert: 20 reps
Trae Waynes: 19 reps
Harrison Smith: 19 reps
Calvin Pryor: 18 reps
Bradley Roby: 17 reps
Desmond Trufant: 16 reps
Darqueze Dennard: 15 reps
Ronald Darby: 12 reps
HaHa Clinton-Dix: 11 reps
Tyrann Mathieu: 4 reps


Florida State cornerback/safety Jalen Ramsey is the favorite to be the first defensive back selected. Ramsey posted 14 reps of 225 pounds for a quality total. If Ramsey (6-1, 209) is playing more safety than corner in the NFL, he probably will want to add more strength to tackle.

Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves III is the top pure corner in the 2016 NFL Draft. Hargreaves (5-10, 204) is put together well and produced a respectable total of 15 reps. Hargreaves could use a fast 40 time to help his chances of being a top-10 pick.

Virginia Tech cornerback Kendall Fuller also had 15 reps. Fuller (5-11, 187) showed that he hasn't skipped out on time in the weight room while rehabbing the knee injury that robbed him of the 2015 season.

The leader on the bench press was Utah safety Miles Killebrew with 22 reps. Davis (6-1, 201) had a strong Senior Bowl and got his combine off to a good start.

Ohio State cornerback Eli Apple churned out 13 reps. It wasn't a bad total, but Apple (6-0, 199) didn't impress. He's on the bubble of the first round, so he needs a strong workout to help his cause.

Buckeyes teammate Vonn Bell had 16 reps. Bell (5-10, 199) could rise if he runs fast in the 40-yard dash.

Florida safety Keanu Neal (6-0, 211) has a shot at being a late first-round pick. Some teams grade him lower, but they believe that he's likely to go in the second round if he doesn't get picked on Thursday night. The hard-hitting Neal had a solid 17 reps on the bench press.

Houston cornerback William Jackson was knocked out of the Senior Bowl with an injury, so he could use a strong combine to help his positioning in the early rounds. Jackson (6-0, 189) had 10 reps which, isn't that great for a big corner. Jackson could stand to fill out his frame more considering he will be lining up on the outside and going against big NFL receivers.

Clemson cornerback Mackensie Alexander (5-10, 190) won't be running at the combine, but he did participate on the bench press and totaled 11 reps. Alexander could produce more later, but his pre-combine working out has been mainly to rehab an injury. It wouldn't be at all surprising if Alexander produces more at his pro day, but his total of 11 reps wasn't bad.

The worst performances on the bench press came from Southeastern Louisiana cornerback Harlan Miller with six reps. Sources have told WalterFootball.com that they think Miller was being overhyped coming out of the Senior Bowl, so this will only reinforce that view.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

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Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 8 hours ago
Noah Spence tweaked his hamstring at the Senior Bowl and has issues with it today. Was timed at 4.6 in training. Pro Day next week.
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Re: Official NFL Combine Thread: 2/28

Post by RAIDERRED » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:24 pm

Jones’ workout numbers were fine, albeit not quite as exciting as I’d hoped for, but it was his wardrobe malfunction that lands him on this list. Gearing down following his first 40-yard dash, Jones’ shorts split open in the crotch, exposing his – uh – “package” for the world to see on national TV. Good luck bouncing back from that one, Chris.
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